2Жидков Сергей: по воскресеньям обоих предлагаю объявлять унылой и однообразной попсней и восхвалять вместо них Единственного Истинного Гения Авангарднейшего Авангарда - бабулю Мо Такер. И Энгельберта Хампердинка за компанию.
2ринга: Читаю твои поцты и все понять не могу: ну зачем ты копаешься в рок-музыке? Зачем тратить золотые годы своей жизни на эту подростковую примитивщину, когда есть необъятные просторы Серьезного Академ. Авангарда? Кэйдж и Ксенакис ждут тебя, ринга!
Re: Что Слушали Битлз? Автор:SoxatyiДата: 06.09.08 17:54:00
>На мой взгляд вообще пиком его сольного творчества >был конечно же Electronic Sounds - но после этого >супер альбома Харрисон ничего подобного не смог >писать почему то.
Жажду услышать детальное аргументированное сравнение альбомов Electronic Sound и All Things Must Pass с док-вом явного превосходства первого. Слово "авангард" и "попса" желательно не использовать, в русском языке есть ещё куча более содержательных слов для описания музыки. Попробуй убедить меня (и не только меня), что Electronic Sound - не 45 минут унылого дилетантского мурыжения синтезатора.
And in the end... We'd been promised it for three years, the entire Beatles catalogue digitally remastered. Then, out of the blue, MOJO was invited to Abbey Road for a playback of 10 newly restored White Album tracks! Mat Snow listened in. SAT AT THE VERY SPOT WHERE, 40 years before, George Martin watched the greatest band in the world record Revolution, MOJO feels privileged to be among the first, outside the inner circle, to sample what Fabs fans have been waiting on for a very long time: The Beatles, as The Beatles intended. As a taster for the eagerly awaited digital remastering project -which has been underway for three years and long predates The Beatles' iTunes deal announced in March -we're in Abbey Road's Studio 3 listening to 10 remastered White Album songs. And how do they sound? Better even than we'd hoped. You can hear every thread in the musical fabric -the nuances of Macca's tour de force vocal on Helter Skelter, his tolling bass on Dear Prudence and, eeriest of all, John Lennon singing Happiness Is A Warm Gun as if he's sitting right next you, right now, rather than his whole lifespan ago. The Continuing Story Of Bungalow Bill, While My Guitar Gently Weeps, Martha My Dear, Don't Pass Me By, I Will and Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey all pass the audition too, with an immediacy, intimacy and freshness that, until now has lain half-hidden beneath the patina of old-school digital remastering and even older school master-disc cutting. For today's playback, stereo remastering engineer Guy Massey has synchronised the remasters with the original 1987 CD masters, allowing us to flip between the two. It's like we've been hearing them under glass all these years. The remastering project has gone back to every UK studio album release plus Past Masters, the Yellow Submarine Soundtrack and the US Magical Mystery Tour (but not, alas, Live At The Hollywood Bowl), and applied state-of-the-art digital technology to the most scrupulous principles of musical restoration. Compared to the 5.1 remix of the earlier Yellow Submarine Songtrack and Love projects, EMI's special project co-ordinator Allan Rouse cautions us to expect "subtlety". But it is the subtle details that make all the difference. Since the original CD remasters were issued two decades ago, audiophiles have complained that they lacked warmth and definition compared to the vinyl. The CDs sold extremely well, but EMI, Apple, Paul, Ringo, Yoko Ono and Olivia Harrison have come to share the view that Beatles' fans deserve better. CD remastering of canonical catalogues like Dylan, the Stones, Hendrix and Led Zeppelin showed the way. Honouring the band's original creative decisions, this isn't The Beatles remixed in 5.1; it's The Beatles in their original stereo mix -with a twist. In 1987, George Martin remixed the stereo Help! and Rubber Soul for CD to mitigate the primitive voices-to-the-left, instruments-to-the-right sound first used. The new versions of those albums keep Martin's 1987 rebalancing. But Beatlists will want those original left-and-right mixes spruced up too so (subject to EMI's confirmation) they'll be released separately, as well as every mono mix. Remastering is a process of numerous micro-decisions, and remastering The Beatles, Rouse says, is as complex an application of technology, historical knowledge and human sympathy to a sacred object as restoring a Rembrandt. Even the task of digitising the original tapes required locating precisely compatible tape machines that have been obsolete for years. Rouse managed a small team of remastering engineers working in pairs so that each decision concerning EQ levels and removing clicks and pops could be properly debated. The biggest issue the team faced was bass. EMI's 1960s technical team was highly trained but extremely cautious; their cutting engineers feared too much bass would jolt the stylus out of its groove. The new remasters restore the intended, recorded bottom end. Massey has never heard any response from Paul, Ringo, Yoko and Olivia other than a unanimous thumbs-up. So when can we all judge for ourselves? Off the record, 2009. Apple/EMI aren't going to bodge the packaging for the sake of a bumper Christmas. As to whether the new CD releases will coincide with their appearance as digital downloads on iTunes, no-one is yet saying. Guy Massey reflects on his three year labour: "It's testament to how good the songs are that I'm still not bored with them, not even when they come on the radio at home," he chuckles. "It's been an honour."
Re: Ремастеринг песен Битлз. Автор:SoxatyiДата: 03.09.08 00:38:06
Пока на русских форумах тишина и покой, зарубежные форумы регулярно сходят с ума при появлении малейшей весточки о готовящихся ремастерах. Вот обобщение всех цитат из последних интервью, связанных с ремастерами:
Olivia Harrison, June 2007, asked if the downloads would be released by the end of NEXT year (i.e., 2008):
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Oh God, yeah. Hope so ... I don't know if it would be the end of this year, but it would be nice. Imminent, let's put it that way." --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Olivia Harrison, June 2007, on it being "ridiculous" that remastered CDs weren't already available:
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I think we're a little bit behind," and "We (the band's members and widows) all agree. It's been done. It's just trying to now get it out there." --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Paul McCartney, November 2007:
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "it's all happening soon. Most of us are all sort of ready. The whole thing is primed, ready to go -- there's just maybe one little sticking point left, and I think it's being cleared up as we speak, so it shouldn't be too long. It's down to fine-tuning, but I'm pretty sure it'll be happening next year, 2008." --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
and
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "You've got to get these things right," [Paul] explains. "You don't want to do something that's as cool as that and in three years time you think, 'Oh God, why did we do that?!" --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Yoko Ono, February 2008, on Olivia's quotes:
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Q. Last year, Olivia Harrison mentioned that the Beatles catalog was being remastered for CD and the packages would be expanded with good artwork, more photos, et cetera. What can you tell me about that?
A. We are, naturally, making it good on design. But I don’t think it’s just that. I saw what George and Giles Martin did with the Beatles songs in “Love” — that’s rather powerful, and revolutionary too, in a very quiet way. There’ll be some things that will be done that will make it much more current, I think. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Greg Calbi, February 2008, on Beatles iTunes rumors:
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "They're not being remastered just for iTunes; they're being remastered because they got a deal with iTunes. I was partially involved in the discussions leading up to the remastering sessions; most of the Beatles catalog hasn't been remastered in 20 years." --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Apple PR spokesman, March 2008:
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "There's no date set.... I can't tell you if it's this year or next year or when." --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I know most of these quotes are old news to most of us, but I thought putting them all together in one place might be useful. Just from these vague quotes, I think we can safely assume:
A. Remastering work HAS been done, and may even be completed. B. Additional work has probably been commissioned (Yoko's mention of Giles) C. CDs WILL be part of the reissue campaign (Olivia's talk of the packaging) D. They know it's taking forever (Olivia), but they want to make sure it's done RIGHT and they don't regret it later (Paul) E. Even Apple's denial doesn't deny that there IS a reissue campaign being prepared, it just denied that a DATE was set.
The Mojo article, written by Mat Snow, talks about meeting Guy Massey and Allan Rouse when he heard the ten tracks (Helter Skelter, Dear Prudence, Happiness is a Warm Gun, Bungalow Bill, While My Guitar Gently Weeps, Martha My Dear, Don't Pass Me By, I Will, Everybody's got Something to Hide Except Me and My Monkey - that's 9!). Apparantly "Rouse managed a small team of remastering engineers working in pairs so that each decision concerning EQ levels and removing clicks and pop could be properly debated. The biggest issue the team faced was bass. EMI's 1960's techincal team was highley trained but extremely cautious; their cutting engineers feared too much bass would jolt the stylus out of its groove. The new remasters restore the intended, recorded bottom end. Massey has never heard any response from Paul, Ringo, Yoko and Olivia other than a unanimous thumbs-up."
The article states the team worked on the remasters for three years. Guy Massey: "It's testament to how good the songs are that I'm still not bored with them, not even when they come on the radio at home. It's been an honour".
"In 1987, George Martin remixed the stereo Help! and Rubber Soul for CD to mitigate the primitive voices-to-the-left, instruments-to-the-right sound first used. The new versions of those albums keep Martin's rebalancing. But Beatlists will want those original left-and-right mixes spruced up too so (subject to EMI's confirmation) they'll be released seperately, as well as every mono mix."
Re: Битловский эфир на "Эхо Москвы" Автор:SoxatyiДата: 15.07.08 15:50:43
2Дед_Alex: *глядя на список* Ого! Можете ли вы выложить куда-нибудь (rapidshare, ifolder и т.п.) эфиры о следующих группах (в порядке убывания моей заинтересованности): Van Der Graf Generator King Crimson Emerson, Lake & Palmer Gentle Giant Monty Python Jimi Hendrix Frank Zappa Genesis Yes ?
Re: Редкие издания Beatles на CD (lossless) Автор:SoxatyiДата: 06.11.07 03:51:01
Как правильно: психодЕлия или психоделИя? С англицким понятно: сайкэдЭлиа/сайкэдИлия. Всю свою короткую меломанскую жизнь считал, что психодЕлия, но в Битловском Эфире услышал другой вариант. Удар по сознанию нехилый был, признаюсь.
Re: Ремастеринг песен Битлз. Автор:SoxatyiДата: 22.06.07 14:38:54
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Beatles fans will probably have to wait until next year before they can buy the Fab Four's tunes from online retailers such as Apple Inc.'s iTunes store, George Harrison's widow said on Friday.
A recent settlement to a lengthy trademark dispute between Apple and the Beatles' company, Apple Corps Ltd., has cleared the way for the band to distribute its catalog in cyberspace.
But Olivia Harrison told Reuters, "We just have a few things to work out elsewhere."
Specifically, all the Beatles CDs have been remastered -- good news for fans who have long complained about the poor sound quality -- and the organization wants to get the artwork ready for the physical packages.
Asked if the catalog would be available online by the end of next year, she said, "Oh God, yeah. Hope so ... I don't know if it would be the end of this year, but it would be nice. Imminent, let's put it that way."
Paul McCartney, who has adopted an aggressive digital marketing strategy for the release next week of his solo album, "Memory Almost Full," told trade publication Billboard last month that an online deal for the Beatles catalog was "virtually settled." But he, too, shied away from saying that anything would happen in the short term.
The Beatles are the highest-profile omission from digital retailers. While the dispute with Apple did not help, the band's organization has traditionally adopted a conservative approach to new technology, including CDs.
"I think we're a little bit behind," Harrison said, noting that it was "ridiculous" that properly remastered CDs of the band's catalog were not yet available.
"We (the band's members and widows) all agree. It's been done. It's just trying to now get it out there."
She said that Neil Aspinall, the recently retired businessman who oversaw the group's complex business affairs, had been busy in recent years on the remastering project.
"That's a big job. That means you have to go back through all the archives and find great photographs and really give a nice package to the fans."
Aspinall retired in April and was replaced by Jeff Jones, an American music industry executive who specializes in deluxe reissues of classic albums. Harrison said Aspinall's departure was voluntary, dispelling fan speculation to the contrary.
But she said Jones would "pick up the pace" now that the most recent project, a Beatle-inspired Cirque du Soleil stage show in Las Vegas, was underway after years of preparation initiated by her husband before he died in 2001.
