THE Beatles LIVE!!! IN THE STAR CLUB IN THE HAMBURG!!!

2Грибушин Сергей Иванович:

>Кусок песни Red Hot, записанный в Star Club?

Ну да. Собственно на приведенном выше скане Red Hot тоже присутствует. Четвертым трэком :)

эх... чего они там только не исполняли...

http://www.bootlegzone.com/album.php?name=ra-001§ion=1

Интересно. Тогда, вероятно, представленный CD имеет смысл брать тем, кто хочет иметь максимально полную подборку...
Я в своё время даже прослушать эти записи полностью не смог из-за их качества, с тех пор к вопросу не возвращался...

"представленный CD" - имеется в виду, конечно, "представленный в этой теме CD"...

Очень давно ищу эту запись, может кто-нибудь из счастливых обладателей выложет куда-нибудь? Я вот уже в теме "Битловские заказы в медиа-архив" заказик поместил:

https://www.beatles.ru/postman/forum_messages.asp...om=1&msg_id=12910&cpage=110&forum_id=1

PLEASE PLEASE ME :)

Ой, эти записи так разбросаны по разным дискам… я сам в них путаюсь. Вот, что существует
http://beatlestrade.narod.ru/beatles/lingasong.htm
http://beatlestrade.narod.ru/beatles/inHamburg.htm
http://beatlestrade.narod.ru/beatles/inHamburg2.htm
http://beatlestrade.narod.ru/beatles/liveHamburg62.htm
http://beatlestrade.narod.ru/beatles/imHamburg.htm
http://beatlestrade.narod.ru/beatles/RoadRunner.htm
еще имею 1962 LIVE RECORDINGS (71:23) – Baktabak CTAB 5001. Просто не прописал на сайте и виниловых релизов тоже куча….

Вспомнил еще про релиз Secret Trax
http://beatlestrade.narod.ru/beatles/complete2.htm
http://beatlestrade.narod.ru/beatles/complete3.htm
Они щепетильно подходят к своим релизам. Скорее всего, у них самая полная подборка.

Как я понимаю, бутлеги печатают и с официальной пластинки, и с пленок? У меня есть версия этих концертов - явно не с винила запись.

Дайте ссылку,где можно скачать этот альбом!!!!!!!!!!

А что это никто не обсуждает суперновость?
https://www.beatles.ru/news/news.asp?news_id=3522

Вот некоторые подробности, но опять же - пока не услышим этого нового релиза - мало, что понятно:

New live 'lost' Beatle tracks from Star Club era surface
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(1/11/2008) Fuego Entertainment announced Thursday it has acquired 15 songs recorded by the Beatles at the Star Club in Hamburg after, they say, the ones that were released and stopped by the Beatles in a court suit several years ago.
The tapes will be made available online one at a time through Fuego's website. Fuego, formerly a company specializing in Latin music, announced just Wednesday it had reached an agreement with music producer and promoter Jeffrey Collins to form an English music division. The Beatle tracks Fuego has acquired come from Collins' collection.

Here's is the press release issued by Fuego Entertainment on Thursday:

Fuego Entertainment Acquires 15 "Lost", Never Before Released, Recordings by The Beatles

Thursday January 10, 6:00 am ET

MIAMI, FL--(MARKET WIRE)--Jan 10, 2008 -- Fuego Entertainment, Inc. (OTC BB:FUGO.OB - News) today announced it has acquired 15 tracks of previously unreleased music by John Lennon, Paul McCartney, George Harrison and Ringo Starr, "The Beatles." The recordings were made in 1962, a short time before their signing with E.M.I., during the FAB FOUR'S first live appearance together at the Star Club in Hamburg, Germany playing before a small audience of about twenty to thirty people. The original tape of this live recording was "lost" for over 33 years in the record and tape collection of legendary music producer and promoter Mr. Jeffrey Collins.

The Star Club Hamburg recorded most groups that appeared at their club in the late 50s and early 60s under a performance contract that included payment in full for any live recordings made at their club. Many of these recordings were released by Polydor (West Germany). However this particular tape was sold along with several others to Jeffrey Collins, of the Collins Organization, a booking agency in London, England. The original idea was that the tapes would be used to promote the Star Club as a venue and the groups to other clubs that the Collins Organization used. The tapes were in fact not touched until 1994 when, with the release of the B.B.C. tapes and a renewed interest in The Beatles, Mr. Jeffrey Collins decided to search for the lost tapes.

This 15 track set was recorded at the Star Club in Hamburg, Germany a short while after the Ted Taylor recordings and boast different and perhaps better takes of "A Taste of Honey" and "Hippy Hippy Shake" (using Tony Sheridan as a 5th Beatle). These are the only two songs found on the original Star Club releases with which this recording should not be confused.

This is an historical recording because it was the very first time that Ringo Starr actually played with The Beatles "live" after replacing Pete Best on the drums.

Other tracks make good use of Kingsize Taylor's Band "The Dominoes" who utilize their piano on such Beatles favorites as "Money," "Twist and Shout" and "I Saw Her Standing There" all of which were subsequently used on The Beatles' first studio recordings for E.M.I.

What makes this album truly unique are the eight songs not available on any previously released L.P.s or singles -- which include Paul McCartney singing Hank Williams' "Lovesick Blues" and George Harrison vocalizing Maurice Williams' "Do You Believe." One of the most outstanding tracks on this album must be "Ask Me Why" showing just how John Lennon and Paul McCartney became such a winning combination.

The complete list of all the tracks, the complete story of how this "lost" tape from The Beatles came into the possession of Mr. Jeffrey Collins and sound clips from several of the recordings from this album will soon be available on our Fuego Entertainment, Inc. web site at http://www.FuegoEntertainment.net. When you enter the web site click on the "Fuego Plus" menu button.

"I am delighted to be given the opportunity to work with such professional businessmen within the Fuego Entertainment Organization and I am truly looking forward to running the new joint venture and achieving the goals that we will set for ourselves," said Jeffrey Collins.

"Our previously announced Joint Venture with Mr. Collins's Echo Vista Group, incorporates into our exciting music library an extraordinary, diverse, valuable catalog of music. In some cases, never released recorded music, The Beatles is only one example. I'm extremely excited about this acquisition and the future release of this historical Beatles album. They are one of the most commercially successful and critically acclaimed music groups in the history of popular music," stated Hugo Cancio, President & CEO of Fuego Entertainment.

This one of a kind historical album will be released under the Echo-Fuego joint venture, a majority control music division of Fuego Entertainment. A release date will be announced in the near future.

Fuego Entertainment, Inc. is engaged in the production, acquisition, marketing, sales, and distribution of entertainment products such as short films, documentaries, television shows, music, and tour productions. Also, through its subsidiaries, the Company provides management and development of television stations, recorded music, and music publishing services worldwide. The music operations include discovery, production, development, and distribution of recorded music. The Company also markets its music catalog through compilations and re-issues of previously released music and video titles, as well as licenses tracks to and from other producers and record labels for various use, including film, documentaries, short films and television soundtracks. For more information, please visit Fuego Entertainment at www.fuegoentertainment.net.

This press release contains statements, which may constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Securities Act of 1933 and the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended by the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.Those statements include statements regarding the intent, belief or current expectations of Fuego Entertainment, Inc., members of their management, and assumptions on which such statements are based. Prospective investors are cautioned that any such forward-looking statements are not guarantees of future performance and involve risks and uncertainties, and that actual results may differ materially from those contemplated by such forward-looking statements.

From Casey Piotrovski:

Apparently, the audio is not studio quality, but better (and from the way he sounded, easily so) than Star Club. Here's how this is going to work: They're going to put one full cut on their website plus 3 :30 second clips. You'll have access to them if you join the website ($4.95 a quarter). Every three months, they'll change the tune, maybe offer 2 for that quarter. Eventually, after all 15 tracks have been available on-line, as downloads, a conventional CD will be issued. And, according to the guy, the company has already checked with lawyers. So, this is a go. (By the way, one of the cuts is apparently already on line. And he says "Lovesick Blues" is marvelous.)

Пока трудно сказать насколько это супер-новость...
В прошлом году тоже кричали, что обнаружили 500 часов неизданного материала, а в результате это было уже давно издано на Day By Day.

Вполне вероятно все это уже появлялось ранее. К примеру, скорее всего, "Lovesick Blues" - не Битлы, а Kingsize Taylor And The Dominoes, которая, также как и некоторые "альтернативные" версии, была на бутлегах и ранее, например, на CD "Road Runner":
http://www.bootlegzone.com/album.php?name=ra-001§ion=1

PS: по секрету скажу, что есть определенные ожидания появления обновленного варианта Star Club от Purple Chick. Вот там ТОЧНО уже можно сказать, что будут кое-какие сюрпризы. ;-)

Ура! Оно наконец-то вышло!
http://www.bootlegzone.com/album.php?name=pc157§ion=1
http://www.bootlegzone.com/album.php?name=pc158§ion=1

Потрясающая, лучшая на сегодняшний день попытка выстроить записи и диалоги концертов конца 62 года в Стар-клабе в хронологическом порядке, включая гору НОВОГО материала. Сенсацией стали минутная версия Red Hot (напомню, что все предыдущие релизы содержали кусок около 30 сек)и полная версия Red Sais in the Sunset c дополнительным куплетом.

2Corvin:
>Интересно, это как нибудь соотносится с теми
>записями 1962 года, которые собирается выпустить
>Fuego Entertainment?

Ну, в той мере, в какой вообще соотносятся между собой все гамбургские бутлеги. Насколько мне известно, трек лист у будущего диска от Fuego Entertainment следующий:
1. Road Runner
2. Hippy Hippy Shake
3. A Taste Of Honey
4. Money
5. Reminicing
6. Ask Me Why
7. I Saw Her Standing There
8. Sparkling Blue Eyes
9. Lovesick Blues
10. First Taste Of Love
11. Dizzy Miss Lizzy
12. Do You Believe
13. Ooh Pooh Pah Doo
15. Twist And Shout
15. Cannonball

То есть здесь мы имеем (судя по списку треков) полную пленку от 31 декабря 62 года. Битловские треки - это 1-7, причем 4-я - с вокалом Тони Шеридана. Остальные - это King Size & Dominoes. Часть материала от Fuego уже доступна на их сайте (платно), и эта часть была использована в релизе от Purple Chick. Возможно, когда выйдет полный диск от Fuego, появится больше нового материала.
Но речь сейчас не сколько об этом, сколько о том, что Pirple Chick искользовал оригинальные нередактированные пленки записей от 25 и 28 декабря, позвоняющие восстановить ранее неполные треки и правильную их последовательность. Несомненно, на сегодняшний день это наиболее ПОЛНЫЙ релиз гамбургских записей декабря 62 года.

Маленький репортаж про найденные пленки
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/22965189#22965189

Несколько лет назад было Английское подарочное издание

Лимитированный тираж, все были пронУмерованы

2vinyl:
>Лимитированный тираж, все были пронУмерованы

А что именно в нем?

Небольшое обновление в анонсе от Fuego
Похоже, они еще собираются ремастировать этот материал...

# Update (2/21/08) Fuego Entertainment issued a press release Wednesday saying it is going forward with "remastering" the tapes they have in their possession with the goal of issuing a two-disc audio set called "Jamming With Beatles and Friends." Don't hold your breath. Here's that release:

Fuego Entertainment Commencing Digital Re-Mastering of the Historic Lost Beatles Tapes, "Jamming with Beatles and Friends, Star Club, Hamburg, 1962" Marketwire February 20, 2008: 09:15 AM EST

Fuego Entertainment, Inc. (OTCBB: FUGO) announces that its majority owned joint venture Echo-Fuego has commenced the digital re-mastering and enhancement process to improve the quality of the historic Beatles lost tapes in preparation for its future release. The process will take a few months. Once finished the recordings will be part of an historic double CD featuring the 15 original recordings from 1963 and the 15 digitally enhanced recordings. The title of this historical collector's item is "Jamming with Beatles and Friends, Star Club, Hamburg, 1962".

This is an important historical recording because it was the very first time that Ringo Starr actually played with the group "live" after replacing Pete Best on the drums. Seven of the songs on this tape were later studio recorded and released by the group through E.M.I. but the remaining eight tracks were never released.

The recordings were made in 1962, a short time before their signing with E.M.I., during the FAB FOUR'S first live appearance together at the Star Club in Hamburg, Germany playing before a small audience of about twenty to thirty people. The original tape of this live recording was "lost" for over 33 years in the record and tape collection of legendary music producer and promoter Mr. Jeffrey Collins.

The complete list of all the tracks and the story of how this historic lost Beatles tape came into the possession of Mr. Jeffrey Collins is now available on our Fuego Entertainment, Inc. web site at http://www.FuegoEntertainment.net.

This 15 track set was recorded at the Star Club in Hamburg, Germany a short while after the Ted Taylor recordings and boast different and perhaps better takes of "A Taste of Honey" and "Hippy Hippy Shake" (using Tony Sheridan as a 5th Beatle). These are the only two songs found on the original Star Club releases with which this recording should not be confused.

Other tracks make good use of Kingsize Taylor's Band "The Dominoes" who utilize their piano on such Beatles favorites as "Money," "Twist and Shout" and "I Saw Her Standing There" all of which were subsequently used on the groups' first studio recordings for E.M.I.

What makes this album truly unique are the eight songs not available on any previously released L.P.s or singles -- which include Paul McCartney singing Hank Williams' "Lovesick Blues" and George Harrison vocalizing Maurice Williams' "Do You Believe." One of the most outstanding tracks on this album must be "Ask Me Why" showing just how John Lennon and Paul McCartney became such a winning combination.

The release date will be announced in the near future. We invite Beatles fans around the world, our shareholders, members of the media and all interested parties to subscribe to our RSS news feed to receive Fuego news updates. Our RSS news feed link can be found on the front page of our website. www.fuegoentertainment.net.

Fuego Entertainment, Inc. is engaged in the production, acquisition, marketing, sales, and distribution of entertainment products. For more information, please visit Fuego Entertainment at http://www.fuegoentertainment.net.